{"id":45,"date":"2008-04-25T11:00:57","date_gmt":"2008-04-25T16:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hwt.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/internal\/blog\/?p=45"},"modified":"2008-04-25T11:00:57","modified_gmt":"2008-04-25T16:00:57","slug":"shakedown-operations-the-forecasterevaluators-perspective","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/2008\/04\/25\/shakedown-operations-the-forecasterevaluators-perspective\/","title":{"rendered":"Forecaster Thoughts &#8211; Patrick Burke (2008 Shakedown Week)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Experimental Warning Program Blog Entry: 4\/23\/08<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.image-upload.net\/files\/2921\/PatCreek.jpg\" alt=\"Patrick Burke\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Between 3 and 5 pm today, Angelyn Kolodziej and I ran through an archived event, using PAR data as the basis for mock severe weather warnings.<span> <\/span>We both noted the utility of rapid-update radar data in catching the onset of low-level mesocyclogenesis.<span> <\/span>It was also enlightening to interrogate storms as a team viewing the same data.<span> <\/span>This forced us to state our reasoning aloud, and resulted in a verbal exchange of conceptual models and warning philosophies.<span> <\/span>I felt that we arrived at more accurate and timely warning decisions than either one of us could have accomplished alone.<span> <\/span>When the 1.5 hour simulation concluded, it was fairly obvious from my five plus years of NWS warning experience that we had issued more warnings over a small area than we would have issued using WSR-88D data.<span> <\/span>Angelyn and I suspect the PAR scan strategy captured certain features that tipped the scales toward issuing a warning, and which may have fallen between traditional WSR-88D volume scans.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Shortly after 5 pm, we had intended to begin probabilistic warning operations, but paused to observe the supercell that came up to the south and east of Norman.<span> <\/span>All eyes were fixed on the live updating PAR data and the SADS.<span> <\/span>Oklahoma City television crews delivered video of a low hanging wall cloud with rising scud, but weak rotation.<span> <\/span>The circulation never quite tightened up, and the storm had trouble maintaining supercell structure for any length of time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>The Norman storm was at the southeast extend of an extensive cluster of multicell thunderstorms that spread northward across Oklahoma through mid evening.<span> Between 6 and 8pm, <\/span>Mike Magsig worked this activity from one of the probabilistic warning desks.<span> <\/span>Meanwhile, at the second desk, I shifted my attention to an ongoing high-end severe weather event in north Texas.<span> <\/span>A long-lived, high-precipitation supercell moved eastward into the Fort Worth WSR-88D domain.<span> <\/span>This storm expanded in size, forming a classic bow echo anchored by a broad mesocyclone at the northern end.<span> <\/span>An exceptionally intense rear inflow jet presented 90 to 100 knot ground-relative velocities at times.<span> <\/span>Out ahead of this complex, another large supercell formed and approached the southern sides of Fort Worth.<span> <\/span>This storm quickly took on the appearance of a classic, tornadic supercell.<span> <\/span>Eventually, the bow echo overtook the tornadic storm in the vicinity of the KFWS radar.<span> <\/span>With the advantage of near range sampling at low levels, the radar detected several small-scale vortices along the leading edge of the storm outflow.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>The variety of storm modes and storm motions in the two operational domains fostered a productive discussion between myself, Mike, and Greg Stumpf.<span> <\/span>Mike had difficulty drawing probabilistic grids for the transient multicell hail storms taking place in Oklahoma.<span> <\/span>One potential approach may be to outline a broad area of low probability severe hail, and then embed shorter duration, higher probability warnings for particular cores that show some persistence or organization.<span> <\/span>Whatever the warning philosophy, the actual grid preparation could benefit from some type of automated routine or suite of routines for defining a threat area.<span> <\/span>For instance, a tool that outlines the 55 dbZ contour with attention to echo overhang might be a good starting point for drawing a hail threat area.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>The Texas storms brought up a host of even more complex issues, including personal tornado warning thresholds expressed as a percent chance of tornado,  detailed spatial resolution of tornado threats (e.g. high probability surrounding a TVS and lower probabilities along the RFD gust front), and how to emulate longer lead-time information in a probabilistic way (e.g. drawing a 2-hour probability swath to mimic a special weather statement that WFO Fort Worth issued to raise awareness in the metropolitan area).<span> <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Much of our conversation stemmed from large scale design issues, using examples from the evening&#8217;s data to explore probabilistic warning strategies.  In general, we concluded that in designing a probabilistic warning system, researchers may begin with an idealized philosophy, and then incorporate forecaster preferences that have been gained through experience.<span> <\/span>Many of these preferences will hopefully become evident throughout the course of the EWP spring activities.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><em>Patrick Burke (WFO OUN Forecaster, EWP Weekly Coordinator-in-Training)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Experimental Warning Program Blog Entry: 4\/23\/08 Between 3 and 5 pm today, Angelyn Kolodziej and I ran through an archived event, using PAR data as the basis for mock severe&#8230; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/2008\/04\/25\/shakedown-operations-the-forecasterevaluators-perspective\/\" class=\"more-link\">Read more \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":85,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-45","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-forecaster-thoughts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/85"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=45"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=45"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=45"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/inside.nssl.noaa.gov\/ewp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=45"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}